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		<title>By: charlie</title>
		<link>http://alindh.wordpress.com/2006/06/20/widgets-gadgets-and-microbrowsers/#comment-610</link>
		<dc:creator>charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my two pennies:

- yes, hypercard for anything would be well received - pc or mobile
- widsets is too simple and i think will never be more than simple for general consumption. it does have legs, though, for fancyer, developer-created stuff
- do you realize that the nokia browser is built on the same code base as apple safari and that the apple widgets are coded in a way that safari can use hence i keep wondering where such widgets might come in for the nokia browser (not that i know anything, despite my affiliation with nokia).
- hello, bryan.
- and, yes, the pc-mobile-web fusion needs to be a part of this and widgets are ideal for this point of convergence</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my two pennies:</p>
<p>- yes, hypercard for anything would be well received &#8211; pc or mobile<br />
- widsets is too simple and i think will never be more than simple for general consumption. it does have legs, though, for fancyer, developer-created stuff<br />
- do you realize that the nokia browser is built on the same code base as apple safari and that the apple widgets are coded in a way that safari can use hence i keep wondering where such widgets might come in for the nokia browser (not that i know anything, despite my affiliation with nokia).<br />
- hello, bryan.<br />
- and, yes, the pc-mobile-web fusion needs to be a part of this and widgets are ideal for this point of convergence</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Landspurg</title>
		<link>http://alindh.wordpress.com/2006/06/20/widgets-gadgets-and-microbrowsers/#comment-609</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Landspurg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some comments:

* I do not think that &quot;automatic translation&quot; will be usefull from desktop to mobile, as it will generate too much trouble for both developper and user, and by definition widget should be very simple app.

* By selling the browser, opera might kill his own widget market. I am fan of widget, but I still can not test them on my Nokia as I need to buy Opera for this.

Anyway, I suggest you check my ongoing activities on this side here:

On mobile widget: http://blog.landspurg.net/?cat=14 or my microwidget attempt:

http://blog.landspurg.net/microwidget-is-on-the-way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some comments:</p>
<p>* I do not think that &#8220;automatic translation&#8221; will be usefull from desktop to mobile, as it will generate too much trouble for both developper and user, and by definition widget should be very simple app.</p>
<p>* By selling the browser, opera might kill his own widget market. I am fan of widget, but I still can not test them on my Nokia as I need to buy Opera for this.</p>
<p>Anyway, I suggest you check my ongoing activities on this side here:</p>
<p>On mobile widget: <a href="http://blog.landspurg.net/?cat=14" rel="nofollow">http://blog.landspurg.net/?cat=14</a> or my microwidget attempt:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.landspurg.net/microwidget-is-on-the-way" rel="nofollow">http://blog.landspurg.net/microwidget-is-on-the-way</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Rieger</title>
		<link>http://alindh.wordpress.com/2006/06/20/widgets-gadgets-and-microbrowsers/#comment-608</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Rieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Opera Platform, Flash Lite, Widsets - are all great potential platforms to build widgets, gadgets and microbrowsers - however, we&#039;re still a ways off from having a mobile authoring technology that anyone could use. These are still mainly &#039;developer centric&#039; technologies.

Personally, I&#039;d love to see the following:
- widgets could be played back on mobile devices, desktop web, and potentially other devices (TivO, etc)
- authoring could be done in a visual manner similar to Hypercard
- programmers could dig deeper and extend the platform for more integrated applications
- widgets are self-contained, distributable, shareable objects that could still be used WITHOUT a network connection.
- intelligent, persistent caching and connected sync/update allowing for occasionally connected devices and applications.

Personally, in playing around with Opera 9 widgets this morning - along with the Opera Platform idea I think there are some really interesting ideas there - especially when you factor in that Opera is also to ship on the Nintendo Wii and a version of their browser is available for the Nintendo DS. Having a cottage industry of user-generated contents and widgets for your DS and/or Wii would be incredible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Opera Platform, Flash Lite, Widsets &#8211; are all great potential platforms to build widgets, gadgets and microbrowsers &#8211; however, we&#8217;re still a ways off from having a mobile authoring technology that anyone could use. These are still mainly &#8216;developer centric&#8217; technologies.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;d love to see the following:<br />
- widgets could be played back on mobile devices, desktop web, and potentially other devices (TivO, etc)<br />
- authoring could be done in a visual manner similar to Hypercard<br />
- programmers could dig deeper and extend the platform for more integrated applications<br />
- widgets are self-contained, distributable, shareable objects that could still be used WITHOUT a network connection.<br />
- intelligent, persistent caching and connected sync/update allowing for occasionally connected devices and applications.</p>
<p>Personally, in playing around with Opera 9 widgets this morning &#8211; along with the Opera Platform idea I think there are some really interesting ideas there &#8211; especially when you factor in that Opera is also to ship on the Nintendo Wii and a version of their browser is available for the Nintendo DS. Having a cottage industry of user-generated contents and widgets for your DS and/or Wii would be incredible.</p>
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		<title>By: Zache</title>
		<link>http://alindh.wordpress.com/2006/06/20/widgets-gadgets-and-microbrowsers/#comment-607</link>
		<dc:creator>Zache</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I agree

Next generation mobile apps should be something which doesn&#039;t really need very high coding skills, but they could be done by anyone.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adobe.com/products/flashlite&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Flash Lite 2.0&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adobe.com/products/flashcast/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FlashCast&lt;/a&gt; is something to that direction and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.widsets.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Widsets&lt;/a&gt; also.

My Featurelist for killer system
- Platform independent (like widget player software are different)
- Should be URL triggable/referrable so it could be intgrated to rest of the internet
- client side scriptable
- client side cache for data
- background data downloading
- open for anyone, not just for operators and commerial publishing people</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I agree</p>
<p>Next generation mobile apps should be something which doesn&#8217;t really need very high coding skills, but they could be done by anyone.  <a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/flashlite" rel="nofollow">Flash Lite 2.0</a> or <a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/flashcast/" rel="nofollow">FlashCast</a> is something to that direction and <a href="http://www.widsets.com/" rel="nofollow">Widsets</a> also.</p>
<p>My Featurelist for killer system<br />
- Platform independent (like widget player software are different)<br />
- Should be URL triggable/referrable so it could be intgrated to rest of the internet<br />
- client side scriptable<br />
- client side cache for data<br />
- background data downloading<br />
- open for anyone, not just for operators and commerial publishing people</p>
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